Well, Eustace was an old man, it’s quite possible Gerold was yet another husband.It’s definitely possible, I’m not disputing that. But like I said, I just find it surprising, given what was in Dunk & Egg. it was said that Gerold would never leave “the splendor of Casterly Rock and the pleasures of Lannisport” and it was my impression that he had a lot of influence at Tybolt’s side. I can’t see him moving to
hicksvilleColdmoat. And Rohanne Webber seemed very happy at Coldmoat. So ok, Eustace died and Rohanne Webber married Gerold Lannister but I’m left wondering how? and why? Money problems at Coldmoat? Again, I haven’t yet read the notes for myself though.Imma phone my Rohanne expert here and see if she’ll weigh in. nobodysuspectsthebutterfly? Any thoughts?
Two options: it was Rohanne Webber; or it wasn’t, just another woman named Rohanne. Leaving the possible coincidence of names aside, reasons why Gerold’s second wife could have been Rohanne Webber:
- Per the history, Gerold became lord after Tybolt died young, so he wouldn’t have to leave CR and Lannisport, Rohanne would have come to him (and becoming the Lady of Casterly Rock is a huge upgrade)
- GRRM reusing the same uncommon name in the same generation is somewhat atypical
- Rohanne Webber becoming a this-generation Lannister ancestor makes her fit the pattern of Dunk encountering ancestors of characters from ASOIAF, and also leads to interesting parallels re Brienne and Jaime
- This also gives The Sworn Sword much more historical relevance, whereas before only THK and TMK were relevant to current events and TSS was just a little slice of life in Westeros
- Rohanne’s mysterious disappearance in 230 AL, which sounds like a potential future D&E story to me
- And yes, the possible Sansa parallels could be relevant here too, lord knows. :P
Regarding Coldmoat and the Webber inheritance, it’s possible Rohanne either didn’t conceive with Eustace Osgrey before he died, or that if she did have a child with him, it died, or some other complex situation. (A young Webber-Osgrey heir raised at Casterly Rock with his half-siblings? Rohanne remarrying after her heir was of age?) Note that in ASOIAF the only Webber we’ve encountered is a mercenary with the Windblown, and there are no Osgreys mentioned at all, so it’s possible both houses could have died out.
But truly, all we can do is wait for TWOIAF now and see if the likely Lannister family tree clears things up. Or hope Ran deigns to explain, maybe possibly even I don’t know.
I’ve always figured that if Rohanne did have a child then the Webber seen in ADWD is one of two options.
Either he took the name, because the real Webbers died out or he’s a bastard or something, or he’s from the secondary Webber line. I can’t recall if it was a cousin or an uncle, but the branch Rohanne would have lost Coldmoat to if she remained unmarried past her deadline.
And I think any Coldmoat heir of Rohanne’s body - and I’m sure she would have done her damndest to make sure there was one, as she didn’t want her relatives to take it away - has to be by Ser Eustace or another pre-Gerold husband, assuming she did marry him. This is because, if Coldmoat had passed to a Lannister son of Rohanne, we’d know. For one simple reason. While it’s not certain, I’d say it’s very likely (and as noted above, in keeping with the pattern of Dunk meeting ancestors of current ASOIAF characters) that Tytos and his younger brother Jason were Rohanne’s children. Jason, nine years younger than third son Tytos, almost certainly was. Jason is Joanna’s father. Jason, as the younger son, would probably get Coldmoat - technically both belong first to Tytos if he too is Rohanne’s but giving it over to Jason makes sense. It makes him a lord in his own right, even if a minor lord, even if he and his family live primarily at the Rock.
So Joanna would have been a Lannister (or perhaps a Webber, if name change was required, though they’re Lannisters so I can’t see a change) of Coldmoat. And we would know about it. Which can be seen either as evidence that Rohanne Webber had a non-Lannister heir prior to marrying Gerold, or that Lady Rohanne Lannister is a different Rohanne. Though we haven’t seen this name before or since elsewhere that I recall, except Ellyn Reyne’s daughter because Ellyn was trying to hurt Gerold with the name, and that is a direct link back to Rohanne Lannister possibly nee Webber.





